I was just thinking to myself what I dont use in default ubuntu. Here is my list:
1. Open Office
2. Calculator
3. Disk usage analyzer
4. All the printer stuff
5. All of the games
6. xsane image scanning
7. Remote desktop viewer
8. Terminal server client
9. Sound recorder
10. SCIM
11. Palm OS devices support
12. Network tools
13. Nano
Thats it, its not that I dislike the programs its just I dont use them. Some of the stuff like Palm OS support make no sense at all to me because ive never even seen one.
Open office is just too slow for me, I use either gedit or google docs if I need to view the files in windows.
I dont really need to use calculators outside of the classroom.
Disk usage analyzers aren’t really needed when you have a terabyte hard drive.
I don’t have a printer.
I dislike basic games, once you go 3d you never go back.
Dont have a scanner.
Dont need to look at other peoples desktops.
Don’t even know what a terminal server is lol.
Sound recording isn’t really any use for me.
I don’t mind the default shortcuts and dislike the SCIM’s UI.
Ive never even seen a palm. (As I said above)
I use terminal to ping people I find it far quicker.
Terminal text editors are “old hat” gedit is a lot more user friendly.
How about making your own list and explain why.
I hardly ever use xane (though the one time I did need it, having it pre-installed was VERY nice).
I don’t personally think remote desktop viewer should be installed by default because very few people use it and those that do know how to get it. Same goes for terminal-server (what ever THAT is..)
A lot of the CLI utilities you mentioned however are VERY useful when X stops working and you need to use the command line to fix something. The utilities also take very little space, so it seems like a fair compromise to have them available.
I agree with your post, nice Meme.
I think you misunderstand what SCIM is. Not that you’d find it useful in any case (if you did you’d know about it after all), but you might want to look it up for reference.
Lol it isnt too useful anyway, I just thought that it sets shortcuts and imput behavior. I probably should look it up
Any of the games! Let’s face it they all suck.. I mean even Windows does solitaire right.
Most of the things under accessories aside from Gedit and Calc are useless to me..Why don’t they install Gparted by default.. how else are you supposed to format a USB stick without command line ninjaism?
The media players suck.. make VLC the default and move on.. For library management use songbird which SHOULD be in the repo already.
VLC cant be included by default because it ships all of the codecs and MP3 AVI etc have very dodgy patents.
Songbird is ok and I agree it should be in the repo.
Gparted should be installed by default but they shouldnt have a menu item for it instead when a user right clicks and selects “format” thats when it should start.
I’d love to use xsane, but it won’t support my scanner
Printer is fine, especially when you have print to PDF installed.
But what I don’t use:
Ekiga – use Skype
Pidgin – I just don’t do communicators, exept for gmail chat maybe
And I agree about remote desktop, PalmOS support and server terminal.
rhythmbox
firefox
gimp
ekiga
vino
vinagre
tsclient
ubuntu one
gnome-games
pidgin
I use Banshee instead of rhythmbox so that is the first to go. Firefox gets replaced with chromium from the daily ppa for stability, performance and general goodness. I don’t do photoediting so gimp is of little use to me. I have never been able to make ekiga work and none of my friends use SIP, I have skype on my phone and the nokia n810 instead. Vino/Vinagre/tsclient go since I don’t do remote desktop work currently (though good support for the remote desktop system in Vista would be much welcomed for tech support afar). ubuntu one goes for philosophical reasons, I don’t need syncing of my files (I need remote storage though) and I disagree with giving all my files to Canonicals proprietary code.. you touch my data, I touch your code. gnome-games tend to let me waste time so I remove it for productivity. Finally pidgin gets replaced with empathy (googletalk) and amsn for msn since that is currently the only client I know of that supports msn’ webcam protocol aside that it’s a pretty bad program which will be replaced once empathy gains that support.
Additionally I always install packagekit and it’s GNOME tools since I find these nicer in use than the built in applications. I install banshee-mirage for some added musical fun, Monodevelop for playing with C#. Tucan for handling downloads from these annoying rapidshare type services. Finally xchat-gnome mostly since I am used to it, I could use empathy for this as well I guess.
F-spot
Pidgin
Evolution
Rhythmbox
All the printer stuff (I use printer stuff in Ubuntu at work though, where I have a printer)
All of the basic games
xsane image scanning
Remote desktop viewer
Terminal server client
SCIM
Palm OS devices support
1. Evolution
2. Calculator
3. Disk usage analyzer
4. All the printer stuff
5. All of the games
6. xsane image scanning
7. Remote desktop viewer
8. Terminal server client
9. Sound recorder
10.SCIM
11.Palm OS devices support
12.Vi
13.Ekiga
for vnc I use x11vnc and thightvnc. vi because I use nano.
I think the ubuntu devs should indeed rethink their choices of default applications.
1. Xsane – who even owns a scanner these days? Get rid of it.
2. Ekiga – not very useful…i don’t know a single person who uses it. Not needed in the default install, especially with empathy gaining voice/video support for more protocoles.
3. Disk usage analyzer – why keep it when we have gnome-disk-utility now?
4. Terminal server client – people who wanna do RDP stuff probably know what they’re doing alas know how to install software
5. Games – it’d probably be useful to make a selection of only a few but good games. Like some card games, chess and sudoku
6 Palm device support – not sure about that…how many people own such a device and does it even work flawlessly with ubuntu?
Printing has to stay in the default install, since a lot of people do own printers. Vinaigre…could probably be left out along with TSC…but i personally fit it quite useful
With the gained space on the disc we could easily make banshee the default media player and maybe even get rid of totem too.
Would it be useful to create an idea on Ubuntu Brainstorm?
Clemens
I wasnt suggesting to get rid of anything. Of course we have to have games by default.
Ekiga is gone from default ubuntu in 9.10 and replaced with empathy so thats already done. Pidgin is gone too.
I always uninstall these:
* tsclient
* ekiga
* evolution
* gnome-pilot
* xsane
I uaually add these:
* gparted
* sun-java6-plugin
* nautilus-open-terminal
* flashplugin-installer
* unrar
I’m not going to explain why (too much writing). Imagine I use another software or that I don’t use that at all. I just don’t use:
0. Disk usage analyzer.
1. Printer Stuff.
2. Tomboy.
3. F-Spot.
4. XSane.
5. Pidgin.
6. Terminal Server.
7. Evolution.
8. Ekiga.
9. Games (xcept for Sudoku).
10. Dictionary.
11. Sound recorder.
12. About me.
13. Bluetooth.
14. PalmOS
15. SCIM.
tomboy
tracker
character table
sound recorder
rhythmbox (sortof: now is the default ripper and before i used it to play last.fm when it was gratis)
all games except gnometris
f-spot (what good is for to have a program only to browse at photos? photos ARE files, and for those there’s the file manager… but maybe it’s only me having only few hundreds photos)
openoffice.org draw
xsane
ekiga
transmission (it’s there by default, isn’t it?)
dictionary
openoffice (use it mostly for reading .doc …very rarely to compose a document)
many many stuff under system -> preferences system -> admin
I always apt-get purge mono.
Magic idea. I’m gonna have to have a search of launchpad now to see if this has been feature-requested!
Disagree with your xsane stuff. Sure, I’m never going to use it, but if I plug in a scanner and nothing happens, I’m gonna be bummed. Unless package-kit can pop up codec-style and ask me if I want to install the relevant packages of course.
Also, disagree with nano (vital) and calc (too handy to throw away for its size). But you’re bang on – what the hell is that Palm stuff still in there for? Who owns a palm that it’s compatible with these days?
And yep, the games are awful – lose them all.
One thing I would add is GUFW. Sure, there’s no ports open on a default install, but for peace of mind, it’s nice to know that UFW is active and it’s as simple as it gets.
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